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Thursday, August 14, 2014

14082014


Nifty opened above RN 7750. Missed the up move. Rest of the day it was chop within BRN and PDH. Tried two short trades both counter trend trades. Stopped out of these trades.

43 comments:

  1. Hi ST,
    What was the thought process for taking second trade ?

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    1. BOF of Range High /BRN
      I expected some long unwinding due to holiday and weekend

      ST

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    2. ST sir
      I took long trade there, when you exit from first short but exit with a small profit when Nifty bounced back from HOD.
      Second trade (short) as yours, exit at breakeven.
      http://dpintratrading.blogspot.in/2014/08/14082014.html

      VKM

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    3. Nice trades.
      Very tough day to day trade

      ST

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  2. Hi ST,
    If you took the up move, where would you have exited.

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    1. I will exit around 7780 as price was not showing momentum

      ST

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  3. Dear ST,

    The place where you marked BO- immediately after that can it be treated as BOF of PDH and long be initiated ? The other signals are point to take long such as little gap up open and above BRN. Am I right in my thinking?

    Regards,

    Veer

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    1. Yes . It was a long signal and the right trade

      ST

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  4. ST,

    Why u avoided BPB long above days high and BRN 1.57? where was the long entry for u if it shooted strongly up from there.?
    how did u avoided direct PP longs above days high and BRN after so long consolidation and the range broken down failure at bottom (11.54)

    Regards

    Bharat

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    1. I was very much biased towards shorts. Price has already moved up more than 250 points from the bottom
      I expected an unwinding of positional longs due to weekend and holidays so was looking for shorts. But it did not work

      ST

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  5. There was Double bottom across PDH on 11:57 and 12:12. Can you explain the reason why we should not go long above the high of 12:06 bar?

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    1. BOF of PDH was the right trade to go long.
      In a higher range buy the lows. I was biased and messed up

      ST

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  6. Once your first trade failed, you could have possibly thought of a BOF long trade above the 12:06 candle with 7800 as possible target.

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    1. Right. Long was the right trade
      One should not have a bias and need to trade what we see on the chart

      ST

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  7. I took a BOF long at PDH just above the level where you TP of first short. I was hoping for break of BRN, but it was very choppy action around BRN too, so got out with few points at second BOF short level but didn't take the short. It was too fast also.

    Wouldn't it qualify as BOF long at PDH? though I must say there was not much points movement from HOD of morning till PDH, but it just seemed like a BOF to me, even if a mild one.

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    1. Your trade was right
      Buying lows when price trading in a higher range

      ST

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  8. Hi ST,
    What was your thought process for taking the BO of PDH? And did you consider taking the subsequent BOF of PDH immediately after? Thanks.


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    1. It was a wrong trade. Happened due to my strong bearish bias
      I expected a sell off. Market had other plans. Even the BOF of BRN did not work

      ST

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    2. Hi ST, Why was the trade wrong? I took that short also, to me it looked like a BO of PDH after FTC. I thought longs might be keeping SL below PDH. Please correct my error.

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    3. Could have waited for a good break and orderly pull back
      FTC combined with fluid below made me short. But market was extremely strong
      I expected good selling after the BOF of BRN . This one also revered

      ST

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    4. If you were to take BOF long, ideally above which bar would you have taken it. Thanks again.

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    5. Ideal entry should be above the bar where I exited my short

      ST

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    6. Thanks a lot. Where would you have kept initial SL and where would the final exit be?

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    7. SL will be below the BO bottom
      Final exit will be where I entered short
      There is no point in hindsight analysis. The way we behave in real market will be totally different

      ST

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  9. Sir good evening,sir the low of 12.09 pm can be take as double bottom compared to the low of 11.54 am and what should be ideal distance of double bottom ,kindly update thnx

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    1. Usually I do not consider it as DB.It is somewhat like a second push down
      DB happens when price revisits the point after moving away well and after a reasonable time

      ST

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    2. Hi ST
      Nf in second half was in rising channel ..can the lower edge be treated as DP to enter long BOF trades..

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  10. Hi ST
    Nf in second half was in rising channel ...can the lower edge of channel be treated as DP and long bof trades can be traded??

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    1. I do not trade channels
      Channels will not mix well with DP method

      ST

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  11. my total brokerage with all taxes is 150 rs.,at current nifty price . wats ur brokerage with all taxes for 1 lot at current nifty price?

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    1. It is around 120/- on a single lot of Nifty

      ST

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    2. Which brokerage is that? and the service?

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    3. Both Zerodha and TSO
      Orders are getting executed well and Down time is very very rare
      Do not need or expect any other service

      ST

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    4. im thinking to change my broker becoz charge is 150/lot.
      which one u prefer zerodha or TSO ?

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    5. Back office of Zerodha is very good and they are very innovative

      ST

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  12. how to change our on going bias with the flow of price? i mean how to know the present bias and how to know the bias is changing and wen bias change confirms ?

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    1. When price trades in a higher range bias is bullish. At a lower range bearish
      Alternatively if price breaks below a DP, bias is bearish. If it breaks above a DP Bullish

      ST

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  13. Hi ST,
    On many occasions one particular DP will provide more than one setup/opportunity ... over a period of time (e.g, multiple BOF's). Do you have any rules/guidelines you follow when the first and/or second setup fails?

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    1. When a DP trade fails It could be because of a BW or a Channel
      It is better to stay out till the picture is clear

      ST

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  14. Sir good evening,sir sent a mail when time permits kindly check thnx

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